FS Persona Points.

[Danzig]

I must have misunderstood. I got a kill. I didnt land the flight i got the kill on as time ran out. I was still on a streak, yet it didnt count it on my persona, just overall campaign.

[Specter]

The scoring system in FS is a bit odd. You need to have one successful sortie in the mission. Meaning you have to take off, kill something and land. This is kind of like saying to the server, "Hey I'm here and look at me."

After you've killed and landed, the points you just earned and any additional kills you get will count towards your persona. In the last campaign, there was a triple multiplier to the points if you landed, not sure if that changed in this one. So if you fly the last mission out with a couple kills and landed the 1st one, you'll get less points if you try to land the 2nd sortie.

Also if you do one successful sortie then manage to get your plane riddled with .50s and become one with the landscape. (happened to me last night ) All you get is a dead persona and big fat -5 for the mission. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but all the points in the first sortie are meaningless if you die.

So staying alive is paramount.

[Stecher]

Yeah, if you die or are captured, it's -5. Doesn't matter what you did before that. No kills and die, -5. 10 kills, 52 tanks, and die, -5. The bonus multiplier is 4X now.

[Danzig]

Thanks for the explanation. I have to admit, i am a tad dissapointed with the system now that i understand it. <S>

[Stecher]

The emphasis is on living. It's a good motivator.

[beckh]

The whole "have to land" thing is really bs.

[Danzig]

I understand 'Living". What i dont understand is that this is a simulation(Atleast i thought). Why are guys penalized if they bail successful. Why cant the previous landed missions be enough to continue the persona. i can go on and on.

Point being, its not really about keeping your guy alive, but alot more which is why the dissapointment. I dont believe any Experten were ever penalized any of their previous victories if they bailed out and made it home. ;D

As long as you keep your pilot 'Alive" and not captured then that should be all thats needed to count persona points.

[Specter]

I think you still get points as long as you don't die or are captured. So if you bail over friendly territory your persona is still alive. However, you get less points if you landed the aircraft successfully.

It would be nice though if your first sortie still counts for something, it was successfully completed after all. It really doesn't make any sense, when our bomber flights go in and rack up hundreds of points and land successfully. Only to lose all those points when they are shot down an A2A engagement (fighter).

1) A bomber pilot would never be flying a fighter IRL.
2) The A2A engagement has nothing to do with the first sortie, so why should it effect it?

This forces us to adopt weird behavior, like the bomber pilots quiting halfway through the mission because we're scared to lose the points. Everyone rushing to get back to their base in the last 10 minutes of the mission. The fighter objectives are get the bombers and attack aircraft before they land, but it should be protect our assets at all costs. If those are destroyed that side should be hurt just as bad regardless of weather the bomber went down after the fact.

I really liked COT because the war was decided by attrition and capturing territory. FS seems like its trying to approach this, but the war is still ultimately decided by points. I thought in COT we had just as much team work and didn't have this screwy point system to deal with (COT had its own problems though). COT was a lot more tactical rather than strategic that FS is aspiring to.

HAHA now you got me ranting. At the moment FS is the best out there so I guess we just have to deal with its idiosyncrasies and just have fun.

[Danzig]

LOL ya, not meant to be rant. Just kinda BSing here. FS is the best we have and i look foward to every mission.

Cya tonight

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