109vspit; 109vp51

[BigBear84]

For what its worth, found it on the UBI boards.

mnemeth1.brinkster.net/movies/EAA_Interviews.wmv

Quick thing I just thought to point out. When they talk about outturning the Spit IX they make a reference to having the stab and the elevator "all the way back." I'm not 100% sure, but I'm almost positive he means full up trim and full up elevator because the trim wheels moved the entire stab on the 109 up and down. I think?

[Stecher]

I'm pretty sure it did not. It just would have been the trim tabs on the elevator. I'm not really sure what he means by the stab being all the way back unless it's that. It is interesting to hear two real pilots of those planes speak so adamantly about the relative performance, and their theory for inconsistant sims.

[Specter]

Sorry Stecher but I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. BigBear is right.

[Stecher]

I think you got me here. That is a nice shot of the Emil's tail, which makes it pretty obvious. I was thinking though that it was only the Emil because starting with the F, the H-stab looked much more rigid and fixed. Note the closed front as opposed to the E.



And the bolted metal strip that covers the joint that the Emil doesn't have.



But then I found this picture, which looks to me like the internal mechanism which controls the angle of the H-stab.

[Mölders]

I think that mechanism is for the elevators. If you look at the second picture, you will see the joint where the elevator connects to the horizontal stabilizer. I think that is where the cable run through. I also think that the single piece between the two outward pieces controlled the movement of the horizontal stabilizers. The late war 109's I believe had wooden tail structures wrapped in sheet metal. Just a guess though.